الرئيسية مدونة فاينل فانتسي السابع من Briana White Forges Community من خلال ارتداء قلبها على جعبتها [مقابلة]

فاينل فانتسي السابع من Briana White Forges Community من خلال ارتداء قلبها على جعبتها [مقابلة]

لا يقتصر الأمر على Priana White Melt Hearts من Final Fantasy VII في أدائها المرشح لجائزة اللعبة مثل Aerith Gainsborough ، ولكن الممثل يواصل تعزيز مجتمع من المتمردين الغريبين الذين يعتمدون على التعاطف باعتباره لاعبًا قائمًا على القصة. وقع الموقع مع الأبيض في أعقاب أفضل ترشيح لها في الأداء لمناقشة إرث Aerith ، ونمو الألعاب المتمردة الغريبة ، وقوى الحياة الشفاء غريبة ، والطباطا الحلوة المثالية.

site: I wanted to congratulate you on your Game Awards nomination!

Briana White: Thank you so much!

What's the story behind hearing the announcement?How did it feel?

Gosh, it felt incredible.It felt like so exciting!

لقد كان الأمر مثيرًا للاهتمام حقًا لأنني ، بالنسبة إلى عصا التحكم الذهبية ، كنت في مؤتمر عندما تم إصدار تلك الترشيحات ، لذلك كنت أركز تمامًا على شيء آخر ولم أفكر فيه حتى عندما اكتشفت الترشيح لـ Golden Mownsticks ، لقد شعرت بالصدمة وما شابه: Now I got to think about the awards season and all that. It really set everything off.

For the Game Awards nominations, they have a livestream. كان الأمر مضحكًا حقًا لأنها بدأت في الساعة 9 صباحًا ، وقد قمت بتسجيل الدخول إلى الدفق في الساعة 9:02 ، ولكن بحلول 10 - أولاً وقبل كل شيء ، كان والدي يتصل بي وأنا مثل: "أبي ، أعطني ثانية. أنا مشغول ، يجب أن أشاهد هذا الدفق حتى أتمكن من معرفة ما إذا كنت قد رشحت " - وبحلول الوقت الذي دخلت فيه إلى الدفق ، تم الإعلان عن فئتي بالفعل وكنت أتلقى رسائل تهانينا.

So, I didn't actually see myself get announced that I was nominated, but then I went back and watched the VOD later. So, it was very chaotic… in the best sort of way.

Had your dad been calling to congratulate you? Had he heard already?

No, he just happened to call at the exact moment that I needed my phone to be free. [Laughs]

With the Golden Joystick Award experience, did you feel like that helped prepare you emotionally for this or was it still just as shocking?

I guess a little bit more prepared. I was a little less like: “Whoa, wait a minute, is that happening? Is it awards season?”

But, at the same time, I didn't expect a nomination for myself. Especially knowing that the Game Awards didn't have a supporting performer category, they just have Best Performance. And that, I really didn't expect that .

My fellow nominees are all incredible. And for some of them, it's not their first nomination.And they've all been in multiple games as these characters as well. It's a lot to be standing next to them, metaphorically.

But I mean, now you're at the point where you have that legacy with Aerith, too. Like we're coming up on almost five years of you voicing her.

Which is crazy to think about.

أشعر أحيانًا ، لأن Aerith كان دوري الأول ، في بعض الأحيان لا يزال لدي متلازمة دجال صغيرة حول الشعور بأنني أنتمي إلى تلك المرحلة ومع هذه الترشيحات. فقط لأنه ، أعني ، دوري الأول. And even though, yes, I've been doing it now for five years, and I visited her through three games. It still feels like: “Me? What am I doing here?”

How do you combat that Imposter Syndrome?

The thing about Imposter Syndrome is, it's always going to be there for me, I think. But I don't let it affect my behavior.And I think that's the kind of crucial part for me.

عندما كنت أسجل [ Final Fantasy VII ] ، اللعبة الأولى ، تعرضت للاصابة بمتلازمة الدجال المذهلة لأنها عملية صعبة من الناحية الفنية للتعبير عن العمل ولكن أيضًا للترجمة من اليابانيين إلى اللغة الإنجليزية. سأكون مثل البكاء في سيارتي التفكير مثل: "هذا صعب للغاية. I can't do this.”

لكنني سوف أنظر إلى نفسي في المرآة وأقول لنفسي: "حسنًا ، لذلك تشعر بهذه الطريقة ، لكنك ما زلت ستذهب إلى العمل غدًا إذا كان لديك ، أليس كذلك؟" نعم. نعم أنا. [Laughs]

لذا ، متلازمة Imposter ، يبدو الأمر تقريبًا ، لدي هذه المشاعر وأقبلها وأقر بها ، لكن في الوقت نفسه ، ما زلت سأفعل ما شرعت في فعله. إذا كنت لا أنتمي هنا ، بخير. But I am here. I'm going to do my best. And that's all I can do.

إذا لم أشعر أنني أقوم بعمل جيد ، فما الذي يجب علي فعله لجعل نفسي أفضل؟ All of those things were super challenging, but they helped me feel more prepared when it came to recording for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth . So that I could really feel a lot more free and just focus on the acting part of it and not so much the technical part of it.

العودة إلى بداية هذه العلاقة مع Aerith ، وعلاقتك بنوع من صناعة الألعاب بشكل عام ، عندما كنت تحصل لأول مرة على الاختبار لهذا الدور ، ما هي تلك العملية البحثية مثل النظر في أن Final Fantasy لديها الكثير من التوقعات والتوقعات التي تأتي معها؟

Well, when I got the audition material, they told me a codename for the game. They didn't tell me what game it was for. And luckily, because I'm a gamer, I knew already kind of what this was about.

But I also thought there was no way that they would cast me because I've never done anything like this and I'm completely unknown. And her previous English voice actresses are very successful, talented, and famous. You know, Mandy Moore, Mena Suvari, Andrea Bowen, they're legends, right? And I'm not.

لذا ، اعتقدت حقًا أنني سأذهب إلى ذلك ، وليس حجز الاختبار ، لكن ربما يعتبرونني مثل شخصية جانبية إذا قمت بعمل جيد؟ Which does happen in this industry quite a lot.

I thought I would never book it, and this would be the funnest audition of my life that I'd never be able to talk about. But, I still prepared for it as if I was going to do my best. You know, despite my expectations, I was still going to do my best.

I started with a Google search, like many of us do. وبالطبع ، فإن أول ما يظهر هو [أن] Aerith هو واحد من أكثر الشخصيات الأيقونية الأسطورية في الألعاب بسبب وفاتها في عام 1997. لقد صدمت اللاعبون في جميع أنحاء العالم وقلصت قلوب الجميع إلى أجزاء. That's part of why I never thought I would become involved with this character because she's that iconic.

I watched Advent Children , which is the movie that is a sequel to the original Final Fantasy VII . And I watched some playthroughs on YouTube, and some story synopsis, and I read as much as I could about her character.

From there, I had to listen to her Japanese voice actress and try to honor her performance. Maaya Sakamoto has been voicing Aerith since the very beginning. لم يكن لديها ممثلة صوتية يابانية أخرى. كان عليّ أن أحترم أدائها لأنني عرفت أنه ، في الاختبار ، سيكون ذلك في المقام الأول ما تشارك فيه العملية. لقد استمعت إلى نسخة Maaya في سماعات الرأس ، ثم أعطي نسختي بناءً على ما كتبه المترجمون في البرنامج النصي.

So, I listened to her voice and then listened to all the previous English voice actresses as well. ثم أنا فقط ، جلست هنا في إعداد البث الخاص بي ، وأعطيت بعض الأخذ في الاختبار واستمعت مرة أخرى وقلت ، "هل يمكنني إعطائها المزيد من التنفس؟" And so, I listened back, and then I did it again. I just did that probably for a couple hours, maybe. And then I had the audition the next day.

Do you think that mentality of going into it with “Oh, I don't know if I'm really going to get this” helped free you up a bit?

It must have. I mean, I just went in there wanting to have some fun and like make a cool memory. I had no expectations. And that must have helped me.

But I don't, it's so hard to know, even in hindsight. It's so hard to know how I was perceived by others, or if it was really just my voice. لا أعرف. It's one of those impossible questions.

Well, you did definitely make quite a few memories in the last five years with Aerith.

Quite a few.

And you touched on the localization process of making the game and how thorough that was. لكنني أردت أن أعرف ، كشخص يحب ألعاب الفيديو وأنيمي ، كيف شعرت بالمشاركة في عملية التوطين الدقيقة من منظور وراء الكواليس؟

It was the coolest thing ever. It still is. لأنني أعرف كمشجع لهذه الألعاب كم هو مثير للتوقع كيف ستتحول ، ثم أخيرًا في يديك ثم تلعبها و: "أوه ، إنه بالضبط ما تخيلته سيكون أفضل."

And so, then to be a part of the process, being able to have the feeling of: “Oh, I know what's happening and people are gonna love it!” That like little giddy like “I know something they don't know” was like just absolutely thrilling!

But a lot of pressure, of course, too, because I can't say anything. So all of that was very blended together into one complex, complicated experience.

ولكن بالنسبة للجزء الأكبر ، كان من الممتع أن تكون قادرًا على ... لقد قلت في الماضي "لمعرفة كيفية صنع النقانق" ، لكنك لا تريد أن ترى كيف يتم صنع النقانق ، لكنك تريد أن ترى كيف يتم صنع ألعاب الفيديو. It's like watching a behind-the-scenes documentary, but you're living it. It was really cool.

That's a little bit of what I wanted to touch on. We're kind of in an era where so many people who are involved in the video games industry grew up loving games themselves. So how does it feel to balance being like a professional in a fandom space and a fan at the same time?

I wonder about that sometimes. I wonder if me being such a hardcore fan does affect the roles that I book.

Luckily, or maybe not luckily, I don't know. When I asked the casting director: “Oh, you called me in because I'm a gamer, right?” قالت لا. She had no idea that I was a gamer, that I had a YouTube channel, that I was a fan. She had no idea when she called me in.

So, I do wonder sometimes if that affects whether or not people want to bring me in behind the booth. But for the most part, it's just really cool for me. Because when I'm recording, I really only have access to exactly what I need and nothing more. So, I see Aerith's lines, and if I need to see the whole conversation, I'll see the whole conversation. But I don't get a script ahead of time to see like Barret and Cloud having a conversation. If Aerith's not involved, I don't read it.

When I get to play the game, I then get to be the fan too, because there are parts of the game that I have no idea this was going to happen. And so, I do get to have a little bit of that separation. Honestly, it feels for the most part, like I get the best of both worlds.

Are there things you remember, in either Remake or Rebirth , that surprised you most when you played it?

I would say the order of things, in an overarching way. Because we record out of order.

So sometimes, without getting into specifics, the game developers will change the order of some things in order to keep you guessing. Like, “Oh, what's going to happen?” Well, we all know because we played the original Final Fantasy VII that A happens, B happens, and then C happens. But sometimes in the game, they'll do A happens, B happens, D happens … is C still going to happen? And then it does.

كلنا نسجل تمامًا خارج الترتيب ، في معظم الأحيان. سنفعل أحيانًا القصة الرئيسية ، ثم الأشياء الجانبية ، أو ، كما تعلمون ، سنقوم بتقاطات من المشاهد المختلفة التي لم تكن جاهزة بالنسبة لنا بعد. So, the order of things is completely fresh to me and a total surprise.

ولكن أيضًا في بعض الأحيان ، هناك أشياء لم تحدث في Final Fantasy VII الأصلي الذي ينتهي به الأمر إلى المشاركة ، وهذه الأشياء هي مفاجآت كاملة بالنسبة لي.

Speaking of things that aren't surprising, we touched upon Aerith's iconic death. غالبًا ما تكون ألعاب الفيديو هروبًا للأشخاص ، ولكن هناك أيضًا الكثير من الموضوعات الخطيرة التي يمكن أن تحدث في ألعاب الفيديو التي يمكن أن تساعد الناس على العمل من خلال الحزن ، والعمل من خلال بعض المشكلات الأكثر خطورة. هل يمكن أن تتطرق إلى هذا التوازن بين ألعاب الفيديو كونها هروبًا ، ولكن كونها أيضًا مصدرًا للتعاطف؟

I think Final Fantasy does a really good job of that, specifically. لأنه عندما تنظر إلى بعض الألعاب التي يتم الإشادة بها على أنها ألعاب قائمة على القصص ، يبدو الأمر وكأنه مظلم للغاية ، ويأخذك تمامًا بعيدًا عن حياتك الهراوة اليومية إلى مكان أغمق. And that can help you put a film over it, a lens over it, to help you look at dark things from a safe distance.

And that's actually a studied thing that we use in therapy, right? مثل ، من أجل المساعدة في معالجة الصدمة ، في بعض الأحيان تضع عدسة فوقها لدراستها من مسافة بعيدة ، أو وضعت شخصًا آخر في حذائك حتى تتمكن من معالجتها.

Final Fantasy does that because the stakes are really, really high. I mean, the planet is at stake. It's life or death, and death is real. Like, a lot of these characters that we know and love are dying, and so the stakes are really high. But it also balances it out with these really silly, goofy moments, and the little vacation at Costa del Sol.

You get to see these characters that have gone through intense emotional trauma, but then they also get to have a little bit of fun. I really like that about Final Fantasy , because it gives you hope that even if you're going through a dark time, it won't always be that way. حتى لو كانت مخاطر حياتك عالية تمامًا لدرجة أنك فقط ، فأنت لا تعتقد أنك ستجعلها على الجانب الآخر من أي موقف كنت فيه ، حتى في ذلك ، لا يزال بإمكانك الاستمتاع. You don't have to wallow in it.

I think that's what I love about Final Fantasy VII Rebirth , specifically, is tragedy is present because that's life. But also, have fun. I think that's a really beautiful message.

هل واجهت تجارب معها ، ربما ليس فقط ألعاب الفيديو ، ولكن أي نوع من الوسائط التي حدث فيها شيء ما ساعدك على معالجة شيء ما في حياتك؟

Yeah, I am really, really fond of Life is Strange for that reason.

I had a very tough teenagehood because I'm someone who feels things very deeply. I was called very dramatic as a child. And hey, she became an actor, we can't be that surprised! لكن لأنني أشعر بالأشياء بعمق شديد ، وخاصة عندما تكون الهرمونات مستعرة وكل شخص آخر هو هرموني ، كل شيء يبدو وكأنه نهاية العالم ، حتى لو كان صديقك فقط لا يريد التسكع معك في تلك الليلة.

إن الحياة غريبة تقوم بمثل هذا العمل الرائع لتكريم ما يعنيه أن تكون مجرد فتحة قاسية ، ونزف-في كل مكان من المراهقين دون رعايته ، وبدون أن يفسد السكر ، ودون أن يبدو الأمر كما لو كنت في الخارج. يستريح. It's not that big of a deal.” When you're on the other side of it. But when you're in it, it really feels like it is a big deal. And Life is Strange did a really good job of that.

When I finished that game, I really did feel like it healed something in me. It broke me because it's a very intense game as well, but it healed something in me to know that, yeah, it almost is a universal experience.

I'm glad you touched on feeling things really big, because something I did want to talk to you about is your gaming channel. You cry a lot over there. I think it's hard to be vulnerable like that. And especially hearing that you felt kinda insecure about that as a teenager. How did you reclaim being vulnerable and crying in public as an adult?

It's crazy that you bring that up because it's true. I sorta made a career out of being the crying girl on the internet, which I did not set out to do. To me, it was never an option to be any other way. It's just who I am.

When I first started my YouTube channel, I played lots of different games trying to figure out what kind of gamer I would be on the internet. There's gamers who play Minecraft and there's gamers who play Uncharted . كنت من نوع اللاعب الذي جربت الكثير من الأشياء المختلفة ، وفي النهاية عندما لعبت صدى للناس غير المحدودين حقًا مع حقيقة أنني يمكن أن أتحدث عن الشخصيات والعلاقات بينهما ولماذا كان هذا المشهد مؤثرًا للغاية. People really liked that aspect of my gameplays.

So, that is what led me to The Last of Us , which is an incredibly dark and emotional game. At the same time I was playing Life is Strange which, like I said, just cracks me open in the best sort of way. كان لعب هاتين المباراتين في نفس الوقت تجربة عاطفية مكثفة ، أعتقد أنها عززت نوع المحتوى الذي يريد الناس رؤيته مني. Which was fine, because that's who I am.

I sort of fell into being a story-based gamer from there. Because that's who I am, that's what people wanted to see. They want to see authentic reactions, they want to see people feeling things.

Oftentimes, I'll get comments like: “I'm a 52-year-old man, I haven't cried in 20 years, but I cried watching your content.” وأنا آخذ ذلك كمصدر كبير للفخر ، أن المحتوى الخاص بي يمكن أن يساعد الناس ، كما تحدثنا عنه سابقًا ، لديهم مشاعر من مسافة تجعلهم يشعرون بالأمان. أعتقد أن هناك شيئًا جميلًا حقًا في ذلك ، أن المحتوى الخاص بي يمكن أن يساعد في فتح قلب شخص ما قليلاً ويجعله يشعرون بالأمان للحصول على مشاعرهم.

I love your philosophy about what a Strange Rebel means to you. Could you talk about that a little bit?

I had always grown up feeling a little out of mainstream. I was never very popular, I was never very normal. And I always very much wanted to be normal, but, somewhere along the line in high school, I grew out of that.

I had a friend, actually, who was completely, loudly, and unapologetically weird. In the best sort of way. نظرًا لكوننا طفلاً مسرحيًا في المدرسة الثانوية ، فقد احتضنا جميعًا هذا مثل: "نحن لسنا طبيعيين ولا ننتمي إلى التيار الرئيسي ، وهذا رائع! That's so much more fun than being normal.” And I think that's where I picked up this like: “Being average, being normal… that's not something you should want.”

I took this idea of being a rebel to mean going against the mainstream, but not in a bad way. Not in a way that's “wears all black and is angsty and mean”. I don't want to be a rebel in that I want to hurt other people. I want to be a strange rebel. I want to be a rebel in a way that makes the world a little bit better. I want to be a rebel in the fact that I do cry on the internet and I don't feel bad about that.

It's easy to be mean to others. It's easy to close your heart off when you've experienced bad things. But it's strange and beautiful to do the opposite of that. I want people to embrace being rebelliously compassionate and rebelliously kind. That's sort of where Strange Rebel comes from and that's really a huge part of my mission.

I wanted to ask about the channel and how you've seen that community grow since Final Fantasy ?

إنه لأمر مدهش. I mean, when I started out on the internet all I ever heard was that it's a terrible place. That's all I ever heard. I heard about harassment, and women being chased off platforms, and I heard about toxicity in gaming. But, what I found on the internet is that most people are really good and kind, and they just want to share their passions.

I started my channel reading every single comment that was left on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, whatever platform. I'd read every single comment, every single message that someone sends me. And I pretty much still do to this day, which is a lot harder now, but I really make an effort to do that. لأنه إذا خرج شخص ما لمشاهدة المحتوى الخاص بي ، ثم اترك لي رسالة تقول: "أحببت هذا" ، أريد أن أرجع الاحترام الذي يظهرون لي أن يعطيني وقتهم في اليوم ومنحهم وقت اليوم من خلال قراءته على الأقل وإعطائهم مثل ما إذا كان بإمكان. I've found that when I engage with them, that only comes back to me tenfold. Because they're good people, and I like them. I like them as people.

أعني الآن ، نحن جزء من خلاف مدهش حقًا ومزدهر حيث لدينا ليالي أفلام ، ولدينا نادي للطبخ ، وبدأنا للتو في نادي الكتب ، ونقوم بالاسترخاء في الفيديو كل شهر ، ونلعب الألعاب معًا مرتين في الأسبوع. We are there for each other. We meet up at conventions with each other. People in my Discord have found love. I mean, a couple people in my Discord have gotten married after finding each other in my Discord!

I cannot state enough just how proud I am of being able to bring people together in that way because they no longer feel alone. What better thing could I do in this life than bring people together? To celebrate each other, be there for each other, support each other in hard times, and share each other's passions. And all in an amazingly respectful way.

They're so generous. We've raised over $50K for charity, just in my Discord in the past four years.

The fact that Final Fantasy is a huge part of my channel, I do think that that really brings in a good audience. A good group of people that care about the world through the amazing stories that Final Fantasy tells.

But really, I don't care much for numbers, how many subscribers I have, or how many views I get on a video. What I care about is the fact that people have found others like them, that give them faith in humanity, that give back to others. They're not alone in this universe anymore. That's everything to me. That's so much more important than everything else.

Community building is huge, and it sounds like you've curated a wonderful community.

I try, but I don't do it alone. لديّ مدير مجتمع ، جيف ، يقوم بعمل رائع يدير كل هذه الأحداث والتخطيط ، مثل ، لدينا ثلاثية ألعاب سنوية حيث نلعب جميعًا الألعاب والمنافسة من أجل جمع المزيد من الأموال. We've even had a custom Dungeons & Dragons Strange Rebel Gaming themed one-shot! We've done so many amazing, incredible things because of Jeff.

I mean it when I say I haven't done it alone. Every person who joins the community is as much a part of the community building as me. And I try to throw that back to them as much as I can. And people say: “Thank you for making the Discord.” No, thank you for being a part of it! It's not me in there chatting all day, it's you all.

أردت أن أسأل قبل أن نغادر إذا كان هناك أي شيء في حياتك الآن يجلب لك الفرح ، سواء كانت ألعابًا تلعبها ، والأشياء التي تشاهدها ، والناس في حياتك. What's fueling you right now?

Well, the holidays are coming up, and I'm a big family person. So, being able to see my family is everything to me. I'm excited to see everyone.

Actually, after this, I'm making a sweet potato casserole that can feed 30 people.

Do you do the marshmallows on top?

No. So, I used to work at a restaurant called Ruth's Chris [Steak House] that has the hands-down best sweet potato casserole ever! Because it's, if you look at the ingredients, it's basically cake, but with a sweet potato base. The top is brown sugar and pecans and butter and then it crisps up in the oven, so it's like a crust. It's almost like an upside down sweet potato cake.

It's mind-blowing. If you've never had it, you must!

إنه جيد جدًا. I am not welcome at Thanksgiving without it. I am not allowed to show up without this sweet potato casserole, every single year for like seven years now. People demand this sweet potato casserole. I just get better at it every year.

I love family. Family's really important to me, that keeps me going. Like I said, my dad was calling me the other day. My parents are very proud of me right now, which is really nice to hear!

And your mom's a gamer, too! How does it feel to have that family legacy now being in video games yourself?

It's crazy because my mom's a gamer and I keep asking her to play my game, and she won't do it!

The games for her are like Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask , so with the Z-targeting, the camera's really manageable. Final Fantasy ، فاتتها أجيال قليلة من الألعاب حيث تتعلم التحكم في الكاميرا مع العصا الأخرى ، لذا فإن التحكم في الكاميرا أمر صعب للغاية بالنسبة لها. But maybe one day.

But still, they're very proud and very supportive, even if they can't play my game.

لمعرفة المزيد من Briana White ، تحقق من أدائها المرشح لجائزة اللعبة مثل Aerith Gainsborough في Final Fantasy VII Rebirth ، ومجتمعها الغريب في مجال التواصل الاجتماعي ، وطبق الشكر المميز على موقع روث كريس الرسمي.

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